Friday, July 31, 2009

Guardian dog??

Which of these dog breeds are the best guardians: Presa canario ,Fila ,Rottweiler or Doberman pinscher.
Please sort them from the best to worse.
Answers:
There's no one breed that's the best guard dog. A dog is what you make it - you need a dog with a stable temperament from a reputable breeder, the rest depends on the quality of his training. None of these dogs should be owned by someone with no dog experience.
be careful when you get your dog not trained right any dog can be dangerous. My homeowners will not let us have a rott or dobie which tells me they can both be bad to get. If you have small children keep that in mind when picking your dog.
It is not the dog you choose it is the way you treat your dog if you just put them in a yard and show no love they are not going to protect you if you show your dog love they will die for you
Rottweilers in my opinion are the best guardians. I use to have 2 Rotties and they were the most compasionate dogs in the world when it came to protecting their territory. They never bit anybody but they scared the bajesus out of them when someone tried getting in our yard. Somebody tried climbing our fence and getting into our house and they didnt know we had a Rottweiler. Needless to say the dog got the guy cornered until someone from my household got outside.
I think the Dobermen Pinscher
Doberman pinscher DEFIANTLY!!!!!!...
The presa canario is a viscious and unpredictable breed,they are contrary to peoples beliefs dangerous to be around.Rotts are next,Most Dobermans are wimps when you get down to business,Filas..well not too smart.If you want a loyal smart and very protective dog try a Belgian Malanois.I have one that was a washout Academy dog(security training) she is the best watchdog I have ever had.Not too good with strangers or kids though.You need to keep an eye on them.
I'd say that just based on physical potential, the list would be a tie between Presa canario and Filo Brasileiro, then Doberman then Rottweiler. But, it really depends on the dog's training and desire to protect. From this perspective, the list would probably be Doberman, then Rotweiler, then Presa and Filo.
All dogs respond to how they are raised...we had a Rot that was such a big baby with family and friends but, when it came to "sensing" strangers intentions...he was very good! We had a guy knock on our door late at night (in the county) claiming to have car troubles and the dog must have known that the guy was "shady" because he just sat there and gave the guy his "I mean business" growl through the screen door...anyway, the next day, we found out that houses had been broken into on our road!! Good guard dog? I think so!! :)
Why ? What will you do w/this dog??? If you aren't going to make it a part of your family and train it extensively you have NO need for a dog like that. If you want a junk yard dog why not pay for an alarm system. Too many people are harmed by dogs that an owner lets get out and bite or kill someone. I have one of the dogs you describe and I am penalized because of the owner of one turned it into a vicious animal. These dogs are meant to be family dogs...NOT KILLERS
All of these dogs are capable of being excellent guardian dogs. The downside to them is if they aren't trained and socialized properly then they can have serious behavior issues.
Have you considered a great pyrenees? I'm just going to assume that you want a pet to become a member of the family, not a lawn ornament. Just fair warning: It would be cheaper, easier, more dependable, and less stressful if you just got an alarm system.
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Dobermans are the best! there are not enough words for me to discribe how good a doberman is. Im always saying the same thing over and over agian to people, but a Doberman is the MOST AFFECTIONATE DOG EVER. I have worked in the circus since I was a baby and so did my family for 5 generations, and I have volunteerd at animal shelters and no dog can add up to a dobie. I have lived with them allll my life. And my dad trains them, and he taught me.
Now i currently have one, bc my dad lives in spain when he came to visit, he took me to a shelter and we adopted the one i have now, Hammer.
But any-whoo.. A doberman is not dangerous unless you abuse it, or treat it wrong for example, hitting him, ignoring, screaming at them abusivly, purposuly abusng him, and ect ect. As with any dog, they would become angry and not take it anymore, and snap back. But for NO reason EVER will a dobe attack its owner for no reason. And when you get a dobie, its all on how you raise it. Keeping it isolated from people and other animals will make it become afraid. let me tell you a bit about dobes!

They were "invented" for Guarding by a man who was a tax collector in Germany, named Louis Dobermann (short 1"N"). Who needed a dog to protect him in his runs accross town to collect taxes in the "scummy" neighborhoods. So He hand picked dogs like
The Rottweiler- was used in the development of the breed due to its massiveness and intelligence. This very solid dog also possessed great stamina, and had excellent tracking ability. Sometimes the Rottweiler strain can be seen in a Doberman with a "wavy" coat.
The Old German Pinscher (now extinct) - Black and tan, smooth coat, and energetic. Alertness and aggressiveness
The Beauceron- contributed size and color to the Dobermann bloodline. The Beauceron was a solidly built dog, very alert, and was known to be intelligent as well.
Sporting Dogs- was used to lengthen the head - attentive, loving, and territorial.
Weimaraner - Points, retrieves, good nose for tracking. Possible introduction of the gene for producing the blue Doberman.
Blue Dane - Ferocious - used for boar hunting.
English Greyhound - Would account for the black in color, additional height, stamina, and the speed of the Doberman.They do not have to be trained to guard their family and they are very Intelligent, Dobermans are the smartest breed of dog, you can look it up if you dont believe me. Them, and the german shepherd breed are both popular in shtuzund but dobies excel in it more then any breed, and the doberman was invented with all these breedes so that they can perform ANY job.The AKC quotes them as " Compactly built, muscular and powerful, for great endurance and speed. Elegant in appearance, of proud carriage, reflecting great nobility and temperament. Energetic, watchful, determined, alert, fearless, loyal and obedient. " and also "The properly bred and trained Doberman has proved itself as friend and guardian, As is developed, its qualities of intelligence and ability to absorb and retain training brought it into demand as a police and war dog." http://www.akc.org/breeds/doberman_pinsc...
to read more about them, go here :http://www.akc.org/breeds/doberman_pinsc...
Also, you wouldn't be sorry. They dont shed, they are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY easy to train because of their intelligence, Extremly humorus!! Their Bark is very intimidating, and their bite is worse ONLY when needed, When trained properly. Also they are VERY Affectionate, ask any Dobe owner and they will tell you. All Breeders and dog experts will also tell you that they get their nicknames, "velcro" dogs for being soo affectionate. They love to follow you everywhere,make you laugh and please you. They love children and animals as with any other dogs, when they are familiar with them or just not afraid, or if an abused dobe, or any other dog for that matter you dont know for a fact or not, if they have problems.
Dobermans and other dogs only get bad reps becuase of the stupid idiots behind them.

-And for training or ANY problems you could E-mail me any time at all. I can help you over the internet with it so you dont really have to spend money for a question. I really dont mind. I love helping people, and i know lots about dobermans i can write a book! so be free to E-mail me if you need more help on deciding, or getting. I know many breeders and rescues! Please, get ahold of me, I can help you with ANYTHING!. =]
If your looking for a guard dog (property) then maybe a fila or rottie, I have found though, that dogs don't protect something that means nothing to them. So keep that in mind on how you treat your dog. If your actually looking for a protection (you, your body) then the doberman is it. They are extremely intelligent and intuitive, and whoever said before that they are wimps was a tard and has never seena shutzhund trial w/ dobies... I have two and although they are friendly with most people they can be down right scary when they feel it's necissary. Dobermans have a powerful bark as well as bite, contrary to popular belief all dogs have about the same bite strength even pitt bulls some are just bred to either ignore the pain and latch on like a APBT or to never ever bite down like a Golden retriever (goldens were breed to NOT BITE DOWN which is why they arent' biters). Both of mine have the sharpest teeth of any dog i've ever been around though, they have a ridge that i swear is razor sharp. It sounds as if you want a serious dog, I would try checking out house of Hoytt @ Hoytt.com if you are interested in a protection dog. You can get a WELL BRED puppy with extensive training there. And for your needs I recommend protection training by a licenced professional even though most dobermans don't need any protection training since it's what they were bred for. But one definate word of advice for any prospective dobie owner. They WILL NOT protect you or your property if they don't care about it. Dobies are very clingy, needy dogs, they like nothing more than to be with their people, preferably touching them. They aren't the best "guard dogs" and are better at "protection" because they are usually INSIDE dogs. They aren't happy outside wich does you no good.

As far as the Presa Canario, I wouldn't consider it. I'm not into breed bashing but it's not a safe dog to be around yourself honestly unless you have extensive dog training knowledge and know how to protect yourself from a dog attack. and trust me you don't want your dog actually killing someone, (maiming in the interest of protection maybe, but not killing)...

For guard dogs you might also consider one of the belgian shepard breeds or a mastiff breed such as the boerboel (i've heard they are GREAT guard dogs.)

Guards...
Boerbel
Rott
Fila
Belgian Malinois

Protection..
Dobie
Malinois


wouldn't go anywhere near a Presa

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